The image of Our Lady of Guadalupe has been the subject of numerous technical studies since 1751 and extensive scientific investigations in recent years, and none of the result offered any sound scientific explanation which, up to this very day, defies science and all human reasoning as it continuous to baffle scientists and even skeptics.
Below are only some of the findings that were drawn from the scientific investigations conducted on the image and the fabric itself which were commissioned by the authorized custodians of the Tilma in the Basilica, and in every case the investigators had direct and unobstructed access to it:
The Fabric
The "Tilma" (a kind of cloak worn by native Mexicans) of Juan Diego that bears the miraculous Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe is a coarse fabric made from the threads of the maguey cactus fiber which usually lasts no more than 20 to 30 years, and yet the fabric has maintained its structural integrity - without cracking or fading, or any sign of deterioration for nearly 500 years. It consists of two pieces of coarse cloth fibers of about 1.70 by 1.05 meters (69.99 by 41.3 inches) held together in the center by a seam of thread made of the same material and is typical of the cloaks used by the Nahuas in the 15th and 16th centuries called "Ayates." The seam is visible up the middle of the figure, turning aside from the face.
For centuries the Tilma was exposed to the rigors of all natural elements without any kind of protection against infrared and ultraviolet radiations from the tens of thousands of candles near it and the humid condition, dusty and salty air around the Basilica. Despite the constant contact of hands and kisses of thousands of pilgrims who venerated the Image and the continuous manual handling of the Tilma including the many different objects that touched it during the countless times it was subjected to scientific examinations, the Tilma remained in a state of perfect condition. No explanation was also offered by scientists as to why the Tilma is repellent to insects and dust.
In 1789, Dr. José Ignácio Bartolache had two copies of the image painted on an identical piece of maguey cloth using the best techniques of that time and placed them in the same salty and humid environment around the Basilica. After several decades, the two replicas disintegrated. An attempt to "embellish" the Tilma was made which also proved futile: a crown was painted on Our Lady’s head and angels in the clouds. However, unlike the Tilma, these additions have faded away and are no longer visible. The rays of the sun, for example, were coated with gold and the moon plated with silver, but these embellishments also worn away. In fact, the silver-plated moon turned black.
In August 7, 2009, researcher and physicist Dr. Aldofo Orozco told participants at the International Marian Congress on Our Lady of Guadalupe in Glendale, Arizona that there is no scientific explanation for the 478 years of high quality-preservation of the Tilma, or for the miracles of its preservation.
One of the most bizarre characteristics of the cloth is that the back side is rough and coarse, but the front side is as soft as the most pure silk, as was noted by painters and scientists in 1666, and confirmed one century later in 1751 by Mexican painter, Miguel Cabrera. But to the eye, it suggested a coarse weave of palm threads called "pita" or the rough fiber called "cotense", or a hemp and linen mixture: an ixtle - an agave fiber. An analysis of the fibers in 1946 concluded that the fibers came from the Agave plant, however, researchers could not figure out which of the 175 Agave species the Tilma was made from.
The Image of Our Lady
Below are only some of the findings that were drawn from the scientific investigations conducted on the image and the fabric itself which were commissioned by the authorized custodians of the Tilma in the Basilica, and in every case the investigators had direct and unobstructed access to it:
The "Tilma" (a kind of cloak worn by native Mexicans) of Juan Diego that bears the miraculous Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe is a coarse fabric made from the threads of the maguey cactus fiber which usually lasts no more than 20 to 30 years, and yet the fabric has maintained its structural integrity - without cracking or fading, or any sign of deterioration for nearly 500 years. It consists of two pieces of coarse cloth fibers of about 1.70 by 1.05 meters (69.99 by 41.3 inches) held together in the center by a seam of thread made of the same material and is typical of the cloaks used by the Nahuas in the 15th and 16th centuries called "Ayates." The seam is visible up the middle of the figure, turning aside from the face.
For centuries the Tilma was exposed to the rigors of all natural elements without any kind of protection against infrared and ultraviolet radiations from the tens of thousands of candles near it and the humid condition, dusty and salty air around the Basilica. Despite the constant contact of hands and kisses of thousands of pilgrims who venerated the Image and the continuous manual handling of the Tilma including the many different objects that touched it during the countless times it was subjected to scientific examinations, the Tilma remained in a state of perfect condition. No explanation was also offered by scientists as to why the Tilma is repellent to insects and dust.
In 1789, Dr. José Ignácio Bartolache had two copies of the image painted on an identical piece of maguey cloth using the best techniques of that time and placed them in the same salty and humid environment around the Basilica. After several decades, the two replicas disintegrated. An attempt to "embellish" the Tilma was made which also proved futile: a crown was painted on Our Lady’s head and angels in the clouds. However, unlike the Tilma, these additions have faded away and are no longer visible. The rays of the sun, for example, were coated with gold and the moon plated with silver, but these embellishments also worn away. In fact, the silver-plated moon turned black.
In August 7, 2009, researcher and physicist Dr. Aldofo Orozco told participants at the International Marian Congress on Our Lady of Guadalupe in Glendale, Arizona that there is no scientific explanation for the 478 years of high quality-preservation of the Tilma, or for the miracles of its preservation.
One of the most bizarre characteristics of the cloth is that the back side is rough and coarse, but the front side is as soft as the most pure silk, as was noted by painters and scientists in 1666, and confirmed one century later in 1751 by Mexican painter, Miguel Cabrera. But to the eye, it suggested a coarse weave of palm threads called "pita" or the rough fiber called "cotense", or a hemp and linen mixture: an ixtle - an agave fiber. An analysis of the fibers in 1946 concluded that the fibers came from the Agave plant, however, researchers could not figure out which of the 175 Agave species the Tilma was made from.
The Image of Our Lady
There is no explanation offered by NASA scientists on how the image was imprinted on the Tilma. There are no brush strokes, or sketch marks on it. The image also seems to increase in size and change colors owing to an unknown property of the surface and substance of which it is made. The colors actually float above the surface of the Tilma at a distance of 3/10th of a millimeter (1/100th of an inch), without touching it. When examined less than 10 inches of the image, one can only see the maguey cloth; the colors totally disappear.
In 1936, biochemist Richard Kuhn, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, analyzed a sample of the fabric and ascertained that the pigments used were from no known source; whether natural, animal, mineral, or vegetable.
On May 7, 1979, Americans Dr. Philip Serna Callahan, a biophysicist at the University of Florida and an expert in infrared photography, and Jody B. Smith, a professor of aesthetics and philosophy at the College Pensacola, who are both specializing in painting and members of NASA, photographed the image under infrared light and scanned at very high resolutions. After filtering and processing the digitized images to eliminate "noise" and enhance them, they discovered that portions of the face, hands, robe, and mantle had been painted in one step, with no sketches, or corrections, and no visible brush strokes or sizing used to render the surface smooth, no protective varnish covering the image to protect its surface. The Image changes in color slightly according to the angle of viewing, a phenomenon known as "Iridescence", a technique that cannot be reproduced with human hands. Scientists were unable to find any trace of paint residue or dye of any sort on the Image and yet the the colors maintain their luminosity and brilliance. What produced the colors on Juan Diego's cloak or how they were applied remains a total mystery of science. The quality of the pigments used for the pink dress, the blue veil, the face and the hands, or the permanence of the colors, or the vividness of the colors after several centuries, during which they ordinarily should have deteriorated, defy all scientific reasoning. The Image still retains its original colors, despite being unprotected by any covering during the first 100 years of exposure.
The bluish-green color of Our Lady's mantle is unique. It seems to be made of an unearthly shade that as yet no artist has been able exactly to duplicate. Moreover, scientists argued that a painter would be incredibly foolish to choose an Indian's tilma to work on and even more to paint right over the center seam of the cloak. And had the Virgin not turned ever so slightly to the right, the stitch would have divided her face. Just as astonishing is the fact that only the seam still holds the Tilma together. The law of gravity does not allow a single flimsy cotton thread to bind two heavier materials of cloth for more than ten years, much less four hundred and fifty. In addition, the coarse weave of the Tilma was utilized in such a precise manner as to give depth to the face of the Image.
According to the specialists of Kodak Corporation in Mexico, the Image is smooth and bears more resemblance to a color photograph than anything else. The Image has consistently defied exact reproduction, whether by brush or camera.
All who have scientifically examined the image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image can only be supernatural:
Our Lady's height in the Image measures four feet eight inches tall, from head to toe, and is represented as a young woman of 18 to 20 year old. The face is that of a "mestiza" - a mixture of Spanish and Indians race brought about by intermarriage.
Callahan and Smith further discovered that the Tilma maintains a constant temperature of 36.6º to 37º, (98.6 Fahrenheit) the same as the body of a living person.
Carlos Fernandez del Castillo, a gynecologist, examined the image and has determined that the gynecological measurements of Our Lady's physical dimensions indicated a woman who is pregnant entirely consistent with the stage of pregnancy on December 9th for Jesus birth to occur on Christmas day. A stethoscope was placed below the black band at the waist of Our Lady (a sign that she is pregnant) and heard rhythmic repeating heartbeats at 115 beats per minute, the same as that of a baby in the maternal womb.
On December 22, 1981, at the Observatory Laplace Mexico City, Father Mario Rojas and Dr. Juan Hernández Illescas, a medical doctor and amateur astronomer, performed an astronomical study of the Image and analyzed the stellar arrangement that appear in the Mantle of Our Lady. They surprisingly discovered that the stars stunningly and accurately map out the various constellations of the Mexican sky. Even more remarkable is the "star map" on the mantle is in the reverse (the cardinal axis rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise): providing a view of the constellations from beyond them, as would be seen looking through them towards the earth. The constellations are consistent with what astronomers believe was in the sky above Mexico City on the day the apparition occurred - in the winter-morning solstice of December 12, 1531, Saturday, at 10:26AM.
It has also been found that by imposing a topographical map of central Mexico on the Our Lady's dress, the mountains, rivers, and principal lakes coincide with the decoration on the dress.
In 1936, biochemist Richard Kuhn, a Nobel Prize winner in chemistry, analyzed a sample of the fabric and ascertained that the pigments used were from no known source; whether natural, animal, mineral, or vegetable.
On May 7, 1979, Americans Dr. Philip Serna Callahan, a biophysicist at the University of Florida and an expert in infrared photography, and Jody B. Smith, a professor of aesthetics and philosophy at the College Pensacola, who are both specializing in painting and members of NASA, photographed the image under infrared light and scanned at very high resolutions. After filtering and processing the digitized images to eliminate "noise" and enhance them, they discovered that portions of the face, hands, robe, and mantle had been painted in one step, with no sketches, or corrections, and no visible brush strokes or sizing used to render the surface smooth, no protective varnish covering the image to protect its surface. The Image changes in color slightly according to the angle of viewing, a phenomenon known as "Iridescence", a technique that cannot be reproduced with human hands. Scientists were unable to find any trace of paint residue or dye of any sort on the Image and yet the the colors maintain their luminosity and brilliance. What produced the colors on Juan Diego's cloak or how they were applied remains a total mystery of science. The quality of the pigments used for the pink dress, the blue veil, the face and the hands, or the permanence of the colors, or the vividness of the colors after several centuries, during which they ordinarily should have deteriorated, defy all scientific reasoning. The Image still retains its original colors, despite being unprotected by any covering during the first 100 years of exposure.
The bluish-green color of Our Lady's mantle is unique. It seems to be made of an unearthly shade that as yet no artist has been able exactly to duplicate. Moreover, scientists argued that a painter would be incredibly foolish to choose an Indian's tilma to work on and even more to paint right over the center seam of the cloak. And had the Virgin not turned ever so slightly to the right, the stitch would have divided her face. Just as astonishing is the fact that only the seam still holds the Tilma together. The law of gravity does not allow a single flimsy cotton thread to bind two heavier materials of cloth for more than ten years, much less four hundred and fifty. In addition, the coarse weave of the Tilma was utilized in such a precise manner as to give depth to the face of the Image.
According to the specialists of Kodak Corporation in Mexico, the Image is smooth and bears more resemblance to a color photograph than anything else. The Image has consistently defied exact reproduction, whether by brush or camera.
All who have scientifically examined the image of Our Lady over the centuries confess that its properties are absolutely unique and so inexplicable in human terms that the image can only be supernatural:
Our Lady's height in the Image measures four feet eight inches tall, from head to toe, and is represented as a young woman of 18 to 20 year old. The face is that of a "mestiza" - a mixture of Spanish and Indians race brought about by intermarriage.
Callahan and Smith further discovered that the Tilma maintains a constant temperature of 36.6º to 37º, (98.6 Fahrenheit) the same as the body of a living person.
Carlos Fernandez del Castillo, a gynecologist, examined the image and has determined that the gynecological measurements of Our Lady's physical dimensions indicated a woman who is pregnant entirely consistent with the stage of pregnancy on December 9th for Jesus birth to occur on Christmas day. A stethoscope was placed below the black band at the waist of Our Lady (a sign that she is pregnant) and heard rhythmic repeating heartbeats at 115 beats per minute, the same as that of a baby in the maternal womb.
On December 22, 1981, at the Observatory Laplace Mexico City, Father Mario Rojas and Dr. Juan Hernández Illescas, a medical doctor and amateur astronomer, performed an astronomical study of the Image and analyzed the stellar arrangement that appear in the Mantle of Our Lady. They surprisingly discovered that the stars stunningly and accurately map out the various constellations of the Mexican sky. Even more remarkable is the "star map" on the mantle is in the reverse (the cardinal axis rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise): providing a view of the constellations from beyond them, as would be seen looking through them towards the earth. The constellations are consistent with what astronomers believe was in the sky above Mexico City on the day the apparition occurred - in the winter-morning solstice of December 12, 1531, Saturday, at 10:26AM.
Our Lady's cloak has 46 stars: 22 on her right side, and 24 on her left side. These 46 stars are the most brilliant stars that surround the horizon of the Mexican Valley which have been identified. The main constellations of the Northern sky can be seen on the right of the mantle. On the left, the Southern ones which can be seen from the Tepeyac in winter at dawn. The East is situated in the upper part and the West in the lower part. The Mantle is opened and there are other groups of stars which are not marked in the Image, but they are present in the sky. The Boreal Crown is located above the Virgin's head; Virgo is on her chest, in the region of her hands. Leo on Her womb, precisely above the sign of Nahui Ollin, with his main star Regulo, the small king. Gemini, the twins, is found in the region of the knees and Orion is located where the Angel is.
It has also been found that by imposing a topographical map of central Mexico on the Our Lady's dress, the mountains, rivers, and principal lakes coincide with the decoration on the dress.
Our Lady's Eyes
Scientists from the NASA Research Centre have conducted extensive tests on the fabric and image and have discovered no scientific explanation, since the picture is neither painted, dyed, or woven. Digital enlargements of the Image were made and it was discovered that the reflection of Bishop Juan de Zumárraga looking in astonishment could clearly be seen in the pupil of Our Lady's eyes. Further study of the photographic enlargements and rigorous investigations of Our Lady's eyes (only about 1/3rd inch in size), have revealed not only the minuscule human image of a bearded man clearly identifiable in the eyes that no artist could have painted, but all the optical imaging qualities of a normal human eye, such as light reflection, image positioning, and distortion on the cornea which are impossible to obtain on a flat surface. When the eye of Our Lady is exposed to light, the retina contracts, and when the light is withdrawn, it returns to a dilated state, just as happens with a living eye. Our Lady's eyes have been ophthalmologically determined to be alive on the Tilma!
In 1929, Alfonso Marcué González, the Basilica's official photographer, took black and white photographs of the Image and after careful examination of the photographic negative, found a clear image of a bearded man reflected in the right eye of the Virgin. He immediately informed the authorities of the Basilica who sworn him to complete silence about the discovery, which he complied.
More than 20 years later, on May 29, 1951, Jose Carlos Salinas Chavez, while examining a good photograph of the face, rediscovers the same image of a bearded man reflected in the right eye of the Virgin, in the same place which it could be projected in an alive eye. Since then, many people had the opportunity to examine closely the eyes of the Virgin on the Tilma, including more than 20 physicians, ophthalmologists.
The first one was on March 27, 1956, when Dr. Javier Torroella Bueno, MDS, a prestigious ophthalmologist, discovered the presence of the triple reflection (Samson-Purkinje effect) in the eyes of the Virgin - a characteristic of all live human eyes wherein the images are located exactly where they are supposed to be according to such effect, and also that the distortion of the images agree with the curvature of the cornea. In July of the same year, another noted ophthalmologist, Dr. Rafael Torrija Lavoignet, similarly examined the eyes of the Image with an ophthalmoscope in great detail and discovered that the eyes have the three refractive characteristics of a human eye. He also found human figure in the corneas of both eyes, with the location and distortion of a normal human eye and specially noted a unique appearance of the eyes: they look strangely "alive" when examined. By 1976, some twenty doctors had confirmed, orally and in writing, the "unexplainable presence" of a man with a beard in the cornea and lenses of the Virgin's eyes.
An enlarged digital photograph of the image in the eye of our Lady on the Tilma |
In 1979, Dr. José Aste Tonsmann, PhD, a Peruvian ophthalmologist and an expert at IBM in the digital processing of images, and who for over 20 years studied the Tilma, digitally enlarged the Image of Our Lady's eyes by 2,500 times the actual size under extremely high resolution and had found not only a single figure, but images of all the witnesses present when the Tilma was first revealed before de Zumárraga in 1531, plus a small family group of mother, father, and a group of children, in the center of Our Lady's eyes, 13 persons in all. The size of that scene is about 1/100th of an inch. The Iris of the eye magnified, and through mathematical and optical procedures, Dr. Tonsmann was able to identify highly detailed images of at least 13 people imprinted in the eyes who are all present in both eyes: "the Indian", "bishop Zumárraga", the "translator", "Juan Diego showing the tilma" and below said images, "the family", but different in proportions, as would happen when human eyes reflect the objects before them. There are two scenes: the first contains the Bishop Zumárraga gawking at Juan Diego opening his Tilma and discover the image of Mary; the second scene, much smaller than the previous one, is located in the center of the eye and contains a typical family picture of Native Americans: a couple with several children around. The two scenes are repeated in both eyes with amazing accuracy, including the size difference caused by the greater proximity of an eye to the other, against the objects portrayed.
Dr. Tonsmann used digital technology similar to that used in the images received from satellites and space probes in transmitting visual information. The image of Bishop Zumárraga in the eyes of Our Lady was also digitally enlarged 1,000 times than the actual size to be able to see what is reflected in his eyes. The eye of the Bishop contains the image of Juan Diego opening his Tilma before the bishop. The size of this image? A quarter of a micron, which is ¼ of a millionth of a millimeter!
In summary, the Our Lady's eyes bear a kind of instant picture of what actually occurred at the moment the image was unveiled in front of the bishop and other witnesses on December 9, 1531.
The figures are not visible to the human eye, except for one: that of the Spaniard, which is the largest. Nobody could have painted such tiny silhouettes. In the center of the pupils on a much smaller scale you can see another "scene", totally independent of the first. This is an Indian family composed by a woman, a man and some children. In the right eye, there are other people standing behind the woman. Below are the descriptions of each of the 13 figures as found in the eyes of Our Lady:
Figure (1) An full-length Indian seated on the ground with head lightly lifted as if looking up, sign of attention and reverence. He has a kind of hoop in his ear and sandals in his feet.
Figure (2) A white bearded elderly man with a bald patch, prominent straight nose, deep-set eyes that are looking down, believed to be Bishop Zumárraga as he appears at Miguel Cabrera's 18th century painting.
Figure (3) A young man whose features show amazement, seemingly speaking to Bishop Zumárraga. Since the bishop did not speak Nahuatl, it is believed that this young man was an interpreter named Juan Gonzalez, a Spanish born between 1500 and 1510.
Figure (4) Juan Diego, a middle-aged man, with indigenous aspect, with light beard and mustache, hook nose and half-opened lips, and wearing a coned hat - a kind of hat commonly worn by indigenous people working in the fields at that time. He has a Tilma tied around his neck, seemingly extending his right arm and unfolding his own Tilma before the bishop.
Figure (5) A black woman. Behind Saint Juan Diego, appears a woman of dark complexion, possibly a slave who was in the bishop's service. Father Mariano Cuevas wrote in "Church History in Mexico" that Zumárraga said in his will that he released the slave. She was called Maria.
Figure (6) In both corneas, there appears an unknown man with Spanish features who looks on pensively, stroking his beard with his hand. He is looking to the place where Juan Diego is unfolding his Tilma.
Here is a mystery inside the mystery composed by Figures 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. In the center of both eyes, there appears a group of denominated indigenous family. These images (Figures 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13) have different sizes compared to the other figures. However, these people have the same proportion and are part of a different scene:
Figure (7) A young woman with delicate features seemingly looking down. She has her hair wove with flowers. Over her back is a baby in a "rebozo" Figure(8) - a long woolen or linen scarf covering the head and shoulders (also used as a sling for holding a baby; traditionally worn by Latin-American women).
In a lower level, and to the right, there is a man with a hat Figure (9) and a couple of children, a boy Figure (10) and a girl Figure (11). Two other figures, a middle-aged man Figure (12) and a middle-aged women Figure (13) who stood behind the young mother Figure (7).
Dr. Tonsmann, in his book, "El Secreto de sus Ojos" (The Secret of Her Eyes), complete with details and photographs of his last studies of the eyes of Our Lady on the Tilma, and perhaps one of the most fascinating aspects of the studies, concluded that Our Lady of Guadalupe not only left us her miraculous Image as proof of her apparition but some important messages which were hidden in the eyes on the Image until our times, when new technologies have allow them to be discovered, when they are most necessary.
Photo by Jim Creighton |
In 1991, an analysis made by outstanding ophthalmologists, identified normal microscopic network of veins and artery circulation in the free edge of Our Lady's eyelids and the cornea. According to the ophthalmologists who examined the eyes, no painter would have been able to humanly reproduce such precise microscopic details.
Miracles Attributed to the Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe
While the above findings are miracles in itself, the following are some of the recorded miracles attributed to the Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe:
Only a few days after the miracle, on December 26, 1531, while the Indians were celebrating the swiftly completed construction of the chapel, and as was the custom of the Chichimecas playing with bows and arrows and dancing. While some celebrants fired arrows into the air in jubilation, one of them shot an arrow, and accidentally pierced the throat of an Indian who was walking with a group carrying the Tilma to the hill of Tepeyac. The Indian was killed instantly when the arrow pierced his neck. The corpse was carried into the chapel and laid beneath the sacred image. The crowd prayed aloud to Our Lady of Guadalupe for a miracle. Minutes later, after having extracted the arrow right in front of the mantle, the man regained consciousness and rose, completely healed. Only the scar remained visible until the day he died. Following this impressive feat, 9 million Indians converted to Christianity. Spaniards and Mexicans who were mortal enemies embraced one another with joyous affection.
In 1785, a worker, while attempting to clean the glass covering of the Tilma, accidentally spilled a 50% nitric acid solvent on the upper right side of the Tilma that did considerable damage. During the period of 30 days, without any special treatment, the affected fabric re-constituted itself miraculously.
Photo of the twisted brass crucifix after the blast of 1921 |
Recently on July 31, 1997, Father Xavier Escalada, S.J., presented to the public an extraordinary evidenciary document in a sheet of parchment which contains written records of the Apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe to Juan Diego which occurred on four separate occasions in December 1531 on the hill of Tepeyac north of central Mexico City. The parchment first came to light in 1995, and in 2002 was named "Codex 1548" or "Codex Escalada" in honour of Fr. Xavier Escalada S.J. who brought it to public attention and who published it in 1997.
For the full account of the apparition, please click the Apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe to Juan Diego as it appeared in the Codex Escalada.
Blessed Mother, we sorely need you in these days.
ReplyDeletevery true Mr Gary we need her
Deletevery true
DeleteApparitions can be wonderful, but PRAYING THE ROSARY is the best, at all times for all things.
DeleteSo true !Mother we need you desperately .
DeleteWe do have her...
ReplyDeleteI love Her and Her Son and Our Lord The Saviour Jesus Christ!
ReplyDeleteYes, indeed. Blessed Mother of the Creator, we come before you and ask that you never stop loving us and may you always continue to point us to your Son, Jesus Christ.
DeleteThis is just another signs of the times and proof to all the world that God does exist. May God have mercy on our souls.
ReplyDeleteSelf-indoctrination is a powerful thing...
DeleteThe only tilma not decomposing after 50 years, let alone 500 years, the explosion not breaking ordinary light glass nor damaging the Tilma while at the same time breaking the heavy marble and twisting the brass crucifix and the other curious facts require scientific answers. You are the one who is self-indoctrinated if you don't give us reasonable answers for the non-decomposition of the Tilma, the explosion etc.
DeleteJust jaw droppingly astonishing. This should be at least as famous as the Shroud of Turin.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I have never seen Her or heard Her, our Lady was once directly involved in my life. Her Presence was unmistakeable.
ReplyDeleteI love Her so much, and became a Catholic because of Her.
O Mary Conceived without sin, Pray for us who have recourse to Thee.
Although I have never seen Her or heard Her, She was a part of my life a few years ago and I became a Catholic because of Her. I love Her so much.
ReplyDeleteO Mary Conceived without sin, Pray for us who have recourse to Thee.
Bless us Mother with Your peace and Love of Your Son Jesus.
Well said Bogdan, well said.
ReplyDeleteGod is great - I love you Blessed Mother.
ReplyDeletePraise be Jesus and Mary. On this beautiful day of the feast of Our Lady of Gaudalupe, may we all run to our Mother for her help and protection. Her prayers are very powerful with he Son. Our Lady of Gaudalupe pray for us. Pray for our families, pray for the Americas, and pray for the world. We need you!
ReplyDeleteFor the sake of accuracy.... The retina does not expand and contract in response to light. "When the eye of Our Lady is exposed to light, the retina contracts, and when the light is withdrawn, it returns to a dilated state, just as happens with a living eye. Our Lady's eyes have been ophthalmologically determined to be alive on the Tilma! "
ReplyDeleteWe must say the rosary every day and Pray! Pray! Pray!
ReplyDeleteWhat a great story. The story of this image can awaken one's faith.
ReplyDeleteGod has not left us. But it sure is good to have these events to help our mortal flaws.
ReplyDeleteSweet Jesus, thank you for giving us a picture of your loving Mother.
ReplyDeleteOur Lady of Guadalupe, patroness of America and intercessor of the unborn, pray for us.
Blessed Mother please stay with us and protect us as a Mother would her children! We need you now, more than ever.
ReplyDeleteI can always turn to Mary, my precious Mother.
ReplyDeleteIt took my breath away,last night I saw Mary of Nazareth what a beautiful movie. Mary Mother of God Pray for us.
ReplyDeleteOur Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.
ReplyDeleteOur Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.
ReplyDeleteOur Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.
ReplyDeleteAmazing and very interesting, but I would love if you could provide sources for all this information. I want to see where it's cited and recorded that these studies were done
ReplyDeleteMy respects to you oh Holy Maryam, Mother of Jesus (peace and blessings of God unto you). May women learn to be obedient to God as you were and trust and have faith always in Him. AMEN.
ReplyDeleteMy respects to you oh Holy Mother of Jesus(peace and blessings of God upon you both). May all women who are believers learn to put their trust, faith and obedience to God as you did. May we live trying to learn by your example of bravery and purity. AMEN.
ReplyDeleteIf you pray to her she WILL help. Thank you Holy Mother for all the wonders you have provided. We need you now in this world more than ever. Jesus and Mary forgive us and continue to help us.
ReplyDeleteWow left me without words! Thank you Virgencita for all your love and care you give us everyday. I pray to you for the peace and faith of the world that need you. Please protect my kids, my husband and myself, protect and help my mother's health, she has been one o your most devoted believers. Vigen de Guadalupe pray for us and for all those in need of our Lord's words.
ReplyDeleteHoly mother we need you in these troubled times as you appeared before in troubled times help us to understand your compassion
ReplyDeleteThere are some errors here. For example, the tilma does not radiate a temperature consistent with the human body, nor is there any noise detectable by a stethoscope, nor do the colors float. Everything else is pretty accurate. But it pains me that articles like this are mixing up truth and falsehood. The reason I can mention that these are erros-- and with some authority-- is that I had the chance to speak at length with the postulator of the cause of the canonization of Juan Diego (that is, Father Eduardo Chavez) who had close contact with the scientific studies and who himself attest that there are miracles of the tilma, but the temperature, stethoscope, and floating image claims are not some of them.
ReplyDeleteWhat church are you appointed to, name of the church and city? Also can substantiate your claim other than just saying to have had a conversation?
DeleteDr. Philip Serna Callahan and Prof. Jody B. Smith discovered that the Tilma maintains constant temperature of a living person, Dr. Carlos Fernandez del Castillo that there are heartbeats at 115 beats per minute (as when baby is in the womb) heard when stethoscope is placed at the waist on the Tilma.
DeleteMr. Chavez and you have simply discarded their scientific discovery as well as scientific discoveries of colours floating above the Tilma's surface, of Our Lady's eyes behaving as being alive etc. You disbelieve in those miraculous facts but they still exist in spite of your disbelief. Shame on you for implicitly accusing the scientists of a mortally sinful lie (itself a mortal sin).
I will have to agree with Fr Anthony that some of the statements might have not been well supported or documented or might have been mislead. Specifically the temperature, the heart beating and the live eyes. As for the findings from Callahan and Smith, as well as image finding on the eyes and the Púrkinje-Sánsom effect, and the material preservation, nobody has been able to explain how.
DeleteDr. Graue indicated that the effects observed on the eyes give the impression of a live eye (not behaving like a live eye). No doubt no human being will be able to achieve that level of perfection.
The floating image is an effect that was also described by C & S, were at a certain level of image magnification, the color cannot be perceived any more. This is still inexplicable, but the closest theories are based on the how the light is reflected, a technique that no human being will be able to achieve on a painting.
For objective minds the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe is still full of facts that no science can explain now, no way to produce this centuries ago. I am a firm believer and devote of Our Lady of Guadalupe, I don't like when some statements might be misconceived-mislead and fall into fanatics, I would not agree to point fingers into people like Fr. Anthony. Actually, these challenges have proven to be worthy specially when no human explanation is found. No doubt, despite some facts that might require some caution in interpretation, the image in the tilma does have a lot of facts that cannot be explained and have to be deemed as miraculous.
I would like to contact the owner of this blog but there is no contact listed.
ReplyDeletemiraculous virgen of Guadalupe pray for the filipino people ! amen i love to read about the miracle in tepeyac all over again !!! pls pray for my family too!
ReplyDeletePerhaps some persons are treated to miracles that others cannot conceive and believe and others are not.
ReplyDelete"Our Lady's cloak has 46 stars: 22 on her right side, and 24 on her left side. These 46 stars are the most brilliant stars that surround the horizon of the Mexican Valley which have been identified."
ReplyDelete46 is also a number of chromosomes in human body. Just saying.
Miraculous....I'm forever grateful to have been blessed to witness this reflection of the Divine.
ReplyDeleteOur Lady is undoubtedly is manife sted in d telma. She is showing to d world the power she has to protect, she is the mother of our lord Jesus .
ReplyDeleteHow wonderful it is that the tilma of our Lady maintains a body temp of 98.6 degrees F. How wonderful it must be to hear the heart beat of 115 times per minute from the tilma of Our Lady. How wonderful must it be to see the 500 year old untarnished image of Our Lady. How wonderful it must be to observe all the scientific data associated with the Tilma of Our Lady. I hope and pray that many more people may see the image of Our Lady. I pray for the conversion of many who will study and learn of the living miracle that is Our Lady of Guadalupe.
ReplyDeletePray for my family.
ReplyDeleteDecember 12 (Feast of our Lady of Guadalupe}
ReplyDeleteMost loving and holy Virgin Mother of God pray for us.
Ave Maria purisima, sin pecado en su vida.
Viva la Virgen!
Our Lady of Guadalupe please pray for us.
ReplyDeleteExcuse me, can you tell me what is the reference for the NASA investigation and scientists name that are the base of this part of the article above?
ReplyDelete"There is no explanation offered by NASA scientists on how the image was imprinted on the Tilma. There are no brush strokes, or sketch marks on it. The image also seems to increase in size and change colors owing to an unknown property of the surface and substance of which it is made. The colors actually float above the surface of the Tilma at a distance of 3/10th of a millimeter (1/100th of an inch), without touching it. When examined less than 10 inches of the image, one can only see the maguey cloth; the colors totally disappear."
I already found the answer to my previous comment in the same article above. Please disregard it. Great article, btw!
ReplyDeleteLouis, Enrique Laskano, why do you write your name in Russian ??? RikiRibi
DeleteIs there a book or publication of this article that can be purchased with the exact wordings???
ReplyDeleteThank you for this now on to the rest of the story.
ReplyDeleteI've never before heard anything about this.It's the most amazing thing I have ever come across.Amazing,simply amazing..
ReplyDeletePleas provide the real dimensions of Our Lady's face, as I have a photographic print that is said to be a 1:1 aspect ratio of the original image. I have no way to confirm this without measurements of the original face, i.e. height and width of the face in inches. I thank you in advance for providing this info, or another source where I can verify the fact my image is a true 1;1 replica. Thank you in advance, and God Bless you and your work. CMW
ReplyDeletePlease supply the dimensions of Our Lady's face on the tilma in inches.
ReplyDeleteBoth height and width, so I can determine if the photo I own is a 1:1 actual aspect ratio of the original.
I think no one here will have this information, it must be classified by the Sanctuary in Mexico City. Try contacting them and good luck
DeleteI had a vision of this long before I had heard of Our Lady of Guadeloupe. This was not a good time in my life. The feeling I experienced was completely indescribable. My life has turned full circle. My addictions are under control and the Peace I have now is priceless. I really do not care if people believe or disbelieve. I know my truth.
ReplyDeletewhat is the exact dimensions of Our Lady's face in inches height X width. From the part in her hair to her chin, and from her left cheek to the right cheek at its broadest point? I have a photo that is said to be a 1:1 copy of the original. I want to verify tis claim.
ReplyDeleteGo there! There is grace there. I am a poor mixed up sinner. Mary helps me. I love you mother Mary.
ReplyDeleteHIMNO A LA VIRGEN DE GUADALUPE
ReplyDeleteO MARIA, PORTADORA DE LA LUZ
AYUDA NOS PORTAR NUESTRA CRUZ
A TRAVES DEL FLUJO TURBULENTE DE LOS RIOS
TU,NUESTRO FARO EN EL CAMINO HACIA DIOS
MADRE DE DIOS Y NUESTRA MADRE
IMMACULADA, CREADA POR EL PADRE
PARA DARNOS JESUS, NUESTRO SALVADOR
EL CUAL NO HABIA LUGAR EN EL PARADOR
TU HIJO TIENE UN LUGAR
NUESTRO CORAZON ES EL ALTAR
DONDE LE ADORAMOS Y LE OFRECEMOS
NUESTRO AMOR Y LABOR DIARIOS
TE QUEREMOS MUCHO O DULCE MARIA
POR FAVOR BENDIGA NOS CADA DIA
FIN DE QUE PODEMOS OBTENER
LA VIDA ETERNA PARA AGRADECER
RITA BIESEMANS, EL 12 DE DICIEMBRE 2014
I had the honor to visit the Basilica October of 2014 and what an experience. I felt her presence and I could not stop feeling emotional and I just had to visit the next day before coming back home. It was an amazing experience.
ReplyDeleteDecades ago as an agnostic fallen away catholic, while going for a degree in physics, I became a stunned believer in what I thought back then was the impossible.
ReplyDeleteIt was about 6AM April 19, 1974, the morning after my mother died.
I slowly awakened from sleep as my thoughts were sadly on the morgue, blocks away where my mom's body lay prior to the upcoming funeral.
Like something suddenly turned on a switch in my mind, I began undergoing a very strange encounter of a feeling and awareness of something off in the distance.
The premonition began while my wife and I slept in the bed of my just deceased mother.
Following the premonition I felt a presence sweeping up to the exterior brick wall of the 2nd floor apartment. Petrofied, I buried my face deep into the pillow as it came through the wall. I was rolled over toward my wife that morning, my eyes tightly closed and I was shaking and sobbing.
I was 39, father of three at the time, and my wife thought I was having a heart attack.
The event remains vividly in my mind and I remind our family of this often enough.
It's said that Albert Einstein believed in a supreme being but not a personal god.
The following is attributed to him:
There are those who see no miracles at all, and there are those who see miracles in all.
Studying the various fields of science and physics today makes it easy to believe in miracles -- miracles exist throughout all reality.
Moreover, God has given mankind abundant evidence of miracles in both nature and as direct signs. Great signs: Bible (Old & New Testament), St. Diego Tilma Image, The Shroud of Turin, St. Pio, etc., etc., etc.
So many signs, and yet the secular world seems to sleep on it all.
HIMNO A LA VIRGEN DE GUADALUPE
ReplyDeleteO MARIA, PORTADORA DE LA LUZ
AYUDA NOS PORTAR NUESTRA CRUZ
A TRAVES DEL FLUJO TURBULENTE DE LOS RIOS
TU,NUESTRO FARO EN EL CAMINO HACIA DIOS
MADRE DE DIOS Y NUESTRA MADRE
IMMACULADA, CREADA POR EL PADRE
PARA DARNOS JESUS, NUESTRO SALVADOR
EL CUAL NO HABIA LUGAR EN EL PARADOR
TU HIJO TIENE UN LUGAR
NUESTRO CORAZON ES EL ALTAR
DONDE LE ADORAMOS Y LE OFRECEMOS
NUESTRO AMOR Y LABOR DIARIOS
TE QUEREMOS MUCHO O DULCE MARIA
POR FAVOR BENDIGA NOS CADA DIA
FIN DE QUE PODEMOS OBTENER
LA VIDA ETERNA PARA AGRADECER
RITA BIESEMANS, EL 12 DE DICIEMBRE 2014
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Hi I love the blog and teach Theology at a Catholic school. I have some students that are pretty skeptical about miracles in general, any chance you can include some of your sources for the studies done on the Tilma? I would greatly appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteHi. I love the blog, I teach Theology and have some students that are pretty skeptical. Any chance you can send me some of the sources for the studies? Please let me know.
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